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ether as fuel source
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ether as fuel source
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when we used lantern at our cabin in the woods. We also used battery powered flaslights and the batteries didn't last real long so you had to save using them for when it was necessary. I started dreaming about a better way to light the cabin. The best solution at the time was a single candle and going to bed early. The radio we had seemed to work for two weeks on a set of batteries why not a light like the dome lights found in vehicles. This got me to thinking in 12 volts and reading about wind generators. By 1979 I had the idea I would have a wind turbine power a bank of 12 volt batteries. Since I had helped build the cabin and we had land I thought alot about building my own place and studied component building systems. Mostly these where geodesic domes. I dreamed of fabricating all the peices in my back yard then loading all my building components onto a fourwheel drive dumptruck we had at the time and unloading it all on the mountain side ready to fasten together. I also thought of how to heat and what sort of lighting to have. It was in the early ninghties that I came across American Ingenuity domes in popular science magazine. I loved the idea I could erect my building components and fasten them all together with morter mix hawk and trowel. This system is still superior to current house construction methodes. I promote the company because I belive it to be a superior effecient structure that can save you half the heating and cooling bills you currently paying plus it has great potential to beat everything else out there in the hybrid house competitions. Super insulated thermal shell,rodent and insect proof. hurrican proof it's really worth considering. These domes have been built in all fifty states. What do domes have to do with energy well how about everything. 40% of all energy expended is used to heat and cool structures. I would love to combine alt energy and alt housing a hybrid system zero emmision net gain!
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worlds first portable fuel cell generator by VOLLER.COM
VOLLER.COM HAS ANNOUNCED IT HAS PRODUCTION FUEL CELL ROLLING OFF THE ASSEMBLY LINE IN THE UK. tHESE ARE THE FIRST EVER IN THE WORLD OF THIS TYPE THEY ARE TARGETED AT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY BUT WOULD HAVE A APPLICATION IN MARINE USE MILITARY USE AND BACKUP POWER AS IN A GREAT STAND BY GENERATOR FOR ALTERNATIVE ENERGY APPLICATIONS
THIS WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE IN YOUR SYSTEM. sOLAR CELLS ON A TRACKING ARRAY ALONG WITH A POLLUTION FREE FUEL CELL BY VOLLER . THE DESIGN LOOKS GOOD DOESN'T…
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printable solar panels
On the main page there is an article about nano solar a company who has developed a printable solar panel.
I can remember reading about a Japanese company who had the printing technology in the mid nighties it printed solar collectors by the cell on a ceramic media. This made for heavy solar panels and was not competative with silicon solar cells. But printing technology has come a long way in twenty years. And technology has a way of not getting fully developed. Once a certain process…
Continuehydrogen is available for fuel today why aren't we using it?
We currently could be using hydrogen all across the united states. With under the hood hydrogen generating technology your not storing any hydrogen you are simply using it as it's produced. Storing hydrogen takes special tanks and the hydrogen tends to evaporate. There are a couple of benifits to the under the hood technology first you increase the effeciency of what ever fuel your burning. gasoline,diesel fuel,propane,natural gas or methanol biofuel by adding hydrogen into the fuel just prio…
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your neighbors will want to buy your place no dought.
or would we just stay home and use twice as much energy entertaining ourselves in front of the TV ect.
We have learned to expect more for our dollars,features,incentives,convience
these devices have really evolved and alot can be done on a trickel of electricity. If we wanted to we could charge our phones off a small solar array
maybe even the one advertised on the home page here. We could re-charge our phones off conventional AA batteries they sell an adaptor specfically for that purpose good idea to have one in the glove box just in case of emergency and say you forgot to pack your car charger and are running low on battery life and about out of gas wish you would of listened and bout one of each. Next generation peco devices may use even less juice as memory becomes cheaper in cell phones and other devices they may not need
as many energy consuming components. You knowby buying the phones with the tiny screens we are paying for the development of ever larger screens for devices. DVD,navigation,TV reception pretty soon the whole digital convergence will culminate in an all in one system you simply speak to and let it know what you want to do. going to lunch where the closest
place to grab a sandwitch,want to find your way there just ask the nav system
or call home no problem. I suggest that these systems will all end up in a frame hanging on the wall like in the jetsons cartoon an all in one entertainment,automation and energy conservation system one that meters electricity to you. Everyone will by then be on an energy diet will will have all cut back on our consumption some and we all should be using less anyways.
The days of wastefull leaking appliances will have ended gone the way fuel wasting SUVs and forced air heating. replaced by new confort zones where
the sweet spot is in front and center of the entertainment node or front and center of the on board on the way to work and back. It's been about the
radio about the eight track the cassette the CD and the Blue ray DVD the flash memory changer and the gps and navigation systems. it is on board computing handheld devices and bluetooth cordless and handfree and now sync yes you can tell it what to do and that pretty neat even though Ford didn't invent it like they like for you to think. So what could the future of Peco energy look like. They predicted we may not even be able to see it so built in and small are computer susposed to get that the next thing you know it's the size of the memory chip that used to slide into it. That be great if it were true because we surely could run that dime size unit off the sun. What else could we pray we could have the technology available to most everyone who wants it and the reason would be what they used to call the technology divide the have and have not's must after all learn to get along. We can have cheap available technology and simple is sometimes alot better than so sophisticated I just haven't learned how to operate the darn thing.
Peco energy would look like that it be like a phone card you could buy one with the minutes you can afford. Goverment doesn't seem to be able to reduce the cost we are paying for energy at the pump and in the grocery store
so I guess we will just have to learn to use less. We all ready have learned to do so much more with less because we had to. I propose that cars will go electric and up that voltage to 48 volt systems and we should be cutting our consumption at home of electricity back by buying devices that work in the car and at home. We are doing that how many people carry laptops and cell phones that surf the net. lighter computers and bigger screens better backlighting crisper sound more vibrant colors we are getting there and on a lot less juice than before. They claim 48 volt systems in cars and house will
arrive at a one size fits all energy source peco energy may be code for 48 volts at home and in the car solar powered maybe so,windpowered could be
battery powered maybe by then who can say. peco power is here today go to Voller.com generators that charge a laptop generate 120 volts AC with no fumes no noise and they make pure water. The world with less energy looks like a great place to be. beam me up scotty
less than 100 lbs total. Now imagine it being levitated by rare earth magnets able to efortlessly sping like a gyroscope now imagine usefull energy being produced by the light breeze you sometimes feel on your property. My idea here is to get you imagine one in your yard. I think you probably have considered solar arrays and the cost had you concerned. In the fiture with energy prices going up and staying up we are all paying too much for energy.
This will spur on innovation in designs of all sorts of alternative energy products. I happen to think that people should be able to afford alternative energy products. Solar needs to come down in price by alot and systems once they are in the affordable range will be purchased and hybrid systems that incorporate wind and solar are pretty attractive. With netmetering you get paid for electricity you produce using alternative energy like solar and wind energy your meter runs backward as you produce and as you consume it runs forwards. This does two things it gives you incentive to conserve as your goal is to save money on energy or at least pay a lot less because you produce most of what you use.
front wheel hub as a prototype for a incorporated flywheel it is called a pancake motor. The materials are neodynium
a rare earth metal used to make very strong magnets. Iseries of 48 volt products this pancake motor concept is one that might have several applications. one used as both motor and generator as in regenerative braking. The 48 volt rotor / generator would be used in vertical axis or savonius wind turbines as a generator built into the bottom rotor so it would be direct drive and hopefully levitated as well using repulsive magnetic forces
The neodynium magnets currently have limitations in the size that they can be manufactured in hopefully that can be overcome.and adventually the larger magnets will have enough force to be able to levitate 100lbs A pancake motor 46 inches in diameter and about four inchs thick and 48 volt so that it might charge four conventional gel cell batteries at once . and would be getting close enough to be a drive motor for small cars
problem always comes back to batteries. Hopefully that will be surpassed with fuel cells. If we could use these vertical axis windturbines to produce hydrogen and turn that to low voltage (48 volt DC) power and transmit that to where ever it is needed using existing power lines. I can see a world with 48 volt flatpanel monitors TV/PC both 48 volt,fridge 48 volt,lights 48 volt OLED
For heat 48 volt radiant heat electric or hydronic. 48 volts is enough to run your lap top charge your cell phone brew you a cup of java and 48 volts might be enough capacity to take on a charge from solar array on the roof and in the front and back glass of your car your electric car. A hybrid system utilizing solar array,wind turbine and a fuel cell could conceivably allow you to
produce all your own energy someday but for convience lets say we just netmeter the hybrid system. The the question becomes affordability what can we do to get the cost of these system down over time the cost of fossil fuels and the cost of alternative energy will meet in the middle it will be what drives more interest in alternative energy. Most of it will come from conservation
of resources as we can only pay for what we can pay for no more.
DEMAND HOURS AND THEN THE FLYWHEELS ARE SPUNN BACK UP
WHEN THE TURBINES ARE PRODUCING. A FLYWHEEL STORES ENERGY BY SPINNING ITS SPEED UP TO THOUSANDS OF REVOLUTIONS PER SECOND. THEY ARE OPERATED IN A VACUUM
USUALLY AND HAVE NEAR FRICTIONLESS BEARINGS. THIS ALLOWS THE FLYWHEEL TO RETAIN ITS SPEED FOR DAYS AND WEEKS WITHOUT THE NORMAL LOSES FROM OUTSIDE FORCES AS LITTLE EFFECTS IT OPERATION ENERGY IS DRAWN DOWN FROM THE FLYWHEEL OVER A PERIOD OF TIME ITS SPEED DECREASES
AND WHEN ENERGY IS APPLIED ITS SPEED INCREASES
LIKE A ELECTRIC BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEM THE SYSTEM CAN BE REPEATEDLY RECHARGED AND DRAWN DOWN. THE GREATEST BENIFIT TO COMBINING WINDTURBINES AND FLYWHEELS IS THE ABILITY TO CALL ON POWER WHEN ITS NEEDED AS APPOSED TO WHEN ITS PRODUCED. COAL FIRED POWER PLANTS MUST HAVE GENERATORS ON STANDBY AWAITING HIGHER DEMAND WITH FLYWHEELS THIS DEMAND COULD BE ANSWERED FROM THE ENERGY STORED IN MASSIVE FLYWHEELS. ONE OF THE PIONEERS OF THE ELECTRIC FLYWHEEL ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS IS ROSEN
MOTORS THEY DEVELOPED A FLYWHEEL ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM
AND RAN ONE OF THE FIRST TEST FLYWHEEL POWERED VEHICLES EVER CREATED.
how about a 42 volt coffee pot? A 42 volt flatpanel,A 42 volt laptop hooked to your flat panel, A 42 volt illumunecent panels lighting your whole house
What about a 42 volt hot tub,A 42 volt entertainment center, A 42 volt
ceiling fan,A 42 volt air purifier,A 42 volt water distiller,A 42 volt mini fridge
A 42 volt alarm system,42 volt central vac,A 42 volt garbage disposal,A 42 volt de-humidifier,A 42 volt air compressor,A 42 volt log splitter. A 42 volt battery charger, A 42 volt fuel cell, A 42 volt electric sweeper/floor polisher
A 42 volt carper cleaner,a 42 volt searchligh beam,A 42 volt 1,000 watt amplifier,a 42 volt washer and 42 volt dryer,A 42 volt water heater and 42 volt
pump
ALL THESE 42 VOLT THINGS RUNNING OFF THE SUNS ENERGY
IMAGINE THE DAY YOU NEED NO OVERHEAD OR BURIED POWER LINE NO UTILITY COMPANY CHECKING YOUR METER, YOU HAVE 42 VOLT POWER CAN SUCH A SYSTEM WORK DOES HAVING MORE POWER HELP AND CAN THINGS BE PORTABLE AT 42 VOLTS OR ARE THEY TO HOT AND TOO HEAVY. TOO LOUD MAYBE TOO LOUD
TECHNOLOGY HAS A WAY OF CREEPING UP ON US AND RENDERING EVERYTHING WE CURRENTLY HAVE USELESS OLD WIN 95 LAPTOPS
THOSE CELL PHONES WITH DEAD BATTERIES THEIR CHARGERS
THE OLD SYSTEMS DON'T DO NEW SOFTWARE AND NEW ONES WON'T HAVE FLOPPY DISCS OR BLUE RAY DOES NOT RECOGNIZE MY
DVD COLLECTION. IS 42 VOLTS GOING TO BE UNIVERSAL OR SOON THERE AFTER WILL WE CHANGE AGAIN TO 54 VOLTS?
fuel from coal could start as soon as 2010. These fuels burn with 90% less emissions. With the cost of crude oil reaching $100 per barrel this method of fuel production may catch on in the United States and China this factor alone could reduce greenhouse emissions. A similar refining method could be applied to natural gas. I also understand that a company called clean world technologies is developing a method to reduce our landfill garbage into speciality chemicals and fuel. Susposed to be an odarless technology. So as long as it doesnt stink or pollute I'm all for it. The idea of turning
garbage into fuel without raising a stink is great. Wasn't that one of the troublesome problems facing alot of municipalities
what to do with the landfill. This isn't the landfill gas technology it is a pressure vessel bio reactor. The way I understand it it uses pressure and temperature to break down the garbage and re-formes those elements back into long chain carbons
guess it must break down the plastic and turn it back into petrolium. Changing World technologies probably has a site on the web I haven't looked! Sounds to me like you can make fuel out of alot of things if you have to. Goatweed bio diesel
soybeans,corn,hemp,wood grain alcohol,sewage and garbage might as well use it for fuel. I like the idea of total recycling every molecule maybe we will start looking closer at what we put in the things we make just to make them eye appealing
I think about how food is wrapped in plastic and plastic costs like 20 compared to making fuel at three dollars when using
fossil fuels to make plastic. Burning plastic is not good for the enviroment. Burning garbage has to release all those inks and dyes into the atomosphere. Changing world technologies system breaks it back down to molecules and joins those back together to form oils and chemicals. The residue from the prosess is non-toxic thats what makes it attractive. Several sewage systems in Japan create enough gaseous fuel to run the treatment plant. Also there is a sewage treatment system called living systems that treat sewage using bio reactor method these systems discharge only clean drinking water into the rivers. A nice thing to know if you get your water from a river any river. There are solutions
go find thses and once you convinced yourself tell others answers abound clean methodes to do what big oil won't do.
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